Jim Collins: And a great society is one that isn't just composed of great companies and economic law that has great education systems. It has great art organizations, it has great government agencies, you need to have a great police department, you need to have great military units. You need to have great health care systems. And they may be funded a lot of different ways. But, if we only have great companies that produce substantial wealth and that's all we have, we are prosperous. But we are not a great nation. And that I think is the challenge, to put all of these together.
And in the United States we believe very much in the idea of a social sector that gets cared for and funded by the private sector by individuals doing it. I don't know how that would play out in China, however, the philanthropic urge, I think is strong everywhere in the world.
Thomas D. Gorman: Yes.
Jim Collins: And one of the really interesting questions, which is something my dear friend Tom Tierney who runs a thing called Bridgespan, keeps challenging us to all think about, is what is really the difference between a great philanthropist and a not great philanthropist in terms of real impact on the society? And you're going to have a lot of wealth, I mean, all these very wealthy Chinese who have produced incredibly successful companies, my question for them is, ok, that's a good start, what's next?
