????5. 如果沒有從事現(xiàn)在的工作，你會(huì)做什么呢？

????我很可能會(huì)成為一名海洋生物學(xué)家。我為塞拉俱樂部（Sierra Club）研究過龍蝦捕撈工具，目的是減少北大西洋露脊鯨被誘捕的可能性。我對(duì)深海有著濃厚的興趣。我覺得，20世紀(jì)下半葉最令人驚嘆的事情之一就是，人們發(fā)現(xiàn)了大西洋中脊深海熱泉附近的生態(tài)系統(tǒng)，也就是不依賴于光合作用的完整生態(tài)系統(tǒng)的存在。小時(shí)候在學(xué)校里，我學(xué)到的知識(shí)是地球上所有生命都始于光合作用。但現(xiàn)在卻發(fā)現(xiàn)，這個(gè)觀點(diǎn)錯(cuò)了。看到一種基本信念因?yàn)樾掳l(fā)現(xiàn)而土崩瓦解，實(shí)在是一件了不起的事。于是我們明白了，我們需要學(xué)習(xí)的東西還有那么多。

????6. 你經(jīng)歷的最大失敗是什么？

????我在職業(yè)生涯初期接手過一份工作，當(dāng)時(shí)看來是一個(gè)很好的機(jī)會(huì)。在我之前沒有女性接手過這個(gè)職位，它也提升了我在公司的地位。但我討厭這個(gè)工作，這種厭惡感非常強(qiáng)烈，以至于我最終辭職回去干了老本行。我在那份工作上對(duì)自己有了更多的了解。從這個(gè)意義上來說，我不認(rèn)為它所謂的失敗。但在傳統(tǒng)意義上，它確實(shí)是一個(gè)敗筆。我在這個(gè)職位上只堅(jiān)持了不到一年的時(shí)間。

????7. 哪項(xiàng)特質(zhì)是每個(gè)領(lǐng)導(dǎo)人都應(yīng)該具備的？

????要愿意傾聽新奇、出人意料或相反的想法。不管這種想法來自什么人。

????8. 你畢生追求的一個(gè)目標(biāo)是什么？

????我希望在人跡罕至的大西洋深處與鯨鯊?fù)?。鯨鯊是一種神奇的生物，它們體型巨大，被人們稱為“溫柔的巨人”。它們自身就是一個(gè)生態(tài)系統(tǒng)。我之所以被深深吸引，是因?yàn)榕c人們印象中的鯊魚相比，它們完全不同。

????9. 你每天會(huì)采取哪些措施促進(jìn)可持續(xù)發(fā)展？

????在日常生活中，我們會(huì)堅(jiān)定不移地對(duì)物品進(jìn)行重復(fù)使用、堆積成肥及再利用。我開的車是混合動(dòng)力汽車，我在努力踐行著可持續(xù)發(fā)展的理念。但最重要的事情還是呼吁別人。有時(shí)候面對(duì)強(qiáng)權(quán)很艱難，你要用溫和的方式告訴人們注意環(huán)保。我向自己保證要做到這一點(diǎn)，但有時(shí)很難做到。

????10. 你錯(cuò)失的最大機(jī)遇是什么？

????我在職業(yè)生涯初期曾經(jīng)得到一個(gè)管理工作的機(jī)會(huì)，但我拒絕了。因?yàn)槲也⒉幌氤蔀楣芾碚?，覺得自己不會(huì)喜歡這類工作，也沒有從事這類工作的規(guī)劃。然而這是錯(cuò)誤的，因?yàn)樽罱K當(dāng)我真正去從事管理型工作的時(shí)候，我對(duì)自己有了更多的了解。我對(duì)在與人共事和學(xué)會(huì)放下這兩方面都有了更多的理解。這對(duì)我的職業(yè)生涯顯然很有幫助，所以現(xiàn)在回過頭看看，當(dāng)時(shí)我的確錯(cuò)失了一個(gè)很大的機(jī)會(huì)。（財(cái)富中文網(wǎng)）

????譯者：劉進(jìn)龍/朱毓芬

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????5. What would you do if you weren't working at your current job?

????I think I really would have loved to be a marine biologist. I did some research for the Sierra Club on lobster [catching] gear that could help reduce the likelihood of ensnaring North Atlantic right whales. I'm really interested in the deep ocean. I think one of the most amazing things that happened in the second half of the 20th century was the discovery of ecosystems at the hydrothermal vents in the mid-Atlantic ridge and the discovery that there are whole ecosystems not based on photosynthesis. When I was a kid in school, I learned that all life on Earth started with photosynthesis, and that's not true. It's a big deal to see such a fundamental belief disrupted from new knowledge, and there's so much more to learn there.

????6. What has been your biggest failure?

????Early on in my career, I took a job that seemed like a good opportunity. There had been no women in the job before, and it moved me up organizationally. But I hated it. I passionately hated it, and I ended up going back to an old job. I don't like to think of it as a failure in the sense that I learned a lot about myself, but it was a traditional failure. I was there less than a year.

????7. What is one characteristic that every leader should possess?

????The willingness to listen to new, unexpected, or contrary ideas. No matter where they come from.

????8. What is one goal that you would like to accomplish during your lifetime?

????I want to swim with a whale shark in the wild, out in the Atlantic. They're amazing. They're huge and called a "gentle giant." They're ecosystems in and of themselves. They appeal to me because they are so contrary to the stereotype of what a shark is.

????9. What daily steps do you take to promote sustainability?

????In my daily life, we're very adamant about reusing, composting, and repurposing. I drive a hybrid, and I try to live the ethos of sustainability. More importantly though is speaking up. It can be hard sometimes to stand up to power. You have to find gentle ways to let people know that they can do things differently, and I've promised myself that I would do that. But sometimes it's hard.

????10. What was your biggest missed opportunity?

????I was offered a job in management very early in my career. I turned it down because I thought I didn't want to be a manager. I felt that it was something I would not like, and I didn't see it as part of my career. And it was a mistake because once I finally did let myself get pushed into it, I learned so much more about myself. I learned even more about working with people and about letting certain things go. And of course it helped my career, so it was a big missed opportunity way back when.