????你裝了心臟起搏器？

????沒錯。幾個月前裝的，而且裝了兩個。我覺得稍微好了一些，但我仍然非常容易感到疲倦。

????和50歲的特德?特納相比，你會怎樣描述現在已經75歲的自己？

????50歲時我精力更旺盛。反過來說，75歲的我可能比50歲時多了一點兒智慧和決斷力，因為我有了更多的經驗。但我其實沒什么變化。左右我的仍是同樣的信條。

????是什么信條？

????嗯，我們需要做出很多改變才能在接下來的50年中生存下來。我們面臨著巨大的麻煩。比如，世界上有數以千計而且一觸即發的核武器。波及多個國家的事故或者地震可能讓我們消失。世界也可能遭到毀滅。如果俄羅斯向美國和其他目標發射核武器，而美國又以數千枚核武器進行回擊，地球上的生命就會遭遇滅頂之災。

????特德，10年前我為《財富》雜志寫一篇名叫《飄》的封面文章時采訪過你。那時你對我說：“我覺得人類在50年內滅絕的可能性是50%。”你仍然這樣認為嗎？

????50年還沒到。我要說，我基本上還是這樣想的。核武器是最直接的威脅。而全球氣候變化以及對地球環境和資源的破壞是另一個巨大威脅。它的影響來的稍微慢一些，但還是非常有可能在50年內看到它所產生的后果。（財富中文網）

????譯者：Charlie?????????

????You have a pacemaker?

????I do. I had it put in a few months ago. I have two. I feel a little better. But I still get exhausted real easily.

????How would you describe yourself today at 75 compared to Ted Turner at 50?

????I had more energy at 50. On the other hand, at 75, I've probably got a little more wisdom and good judgment than I had at 50 because I've got more experience. But I haven't really changed. I'm still driven by the same philosophy.

????And what is that?

????Well, we need to make a lot of changes in order to survive another 50 years. We're in a lot of trouble. For one thing, we've got thousands of nuclear weapons on hair-trigger alert. An accident or an earthquake could cross wires and off we go. And that would be the destruction of the world. If the Russian nuclear arsenal was fired at the United States and other targets and we fired back at them with thousands of nuclear weapons, it would be the end of life on earth.

????Ted, I interviewed you for a Fortune cover profile called "Gone With the Wind" 10 years ago. In 2003 you said to me, "I think the chances are fifty- fifty that humanity will be extinct in 50 years." Do you still believe that?

????Fifty years aren't up yet. I'd say that's generally the case. The nuclear threat is the most imminent threat. But global climate change and environmental destruction of the earth and our resource base, that's the other great threat. It works a little bit slower, but it would still work at a 50-year time frame very possibly.