????亞當?拉辛斯基：我想問你科技如何成為解決方法的一部分。但在此之前，我想先問問你，我們這個國家是否使人們認為，他們需要一個大學學位才能獲得成功，但實際上他們沒必要擁有大學學位？

????約翰?漢尼斯：你知道嗎，我認為你不必擁有大學學位，但如果我是一位加入勞動力大軍的年輕人，我希望在今后40、45甚至50年里繼續工作，因為實際上我認為退休是20、30、40年后的事情。在這段時間里，你可能會換很多個工作，那么大學教育還有重要的價值嗎？很有可能。在未來，經濟可能將充滿不確定性，不會像以前那樣穩定，這時大學教育可能更有價值。可以提供大多數美國人所希望的生活質量的工作將會更少，如果沒有獲得大學教育，你將無法得到這類工作。

????譯者：千牛絮

????ADAM LASHINSKY: But before I ask you about how technology could be part of it, have we as a country guilted people into thinking that they need a college degree to succeed where they don't necessarily need one?

????JOHN HENNESSY: You know, I think you don't necessarily need one, but if I were a young person going out to the workforce expecting to work for the next 40, 45, maybe 50 years of my life, because realistically I think that's what retirement ages will look like 20, 30, 40 years from now, is there great value in a college education when you're going to have multiple careers over that period of time? Probably. And in terms of -- in a time of great economic uncertainty, which is probably what's going to be in the future rather than the certainty we've had, then a college education is probably more valuable. There will be fewer -- you will not be able to get the kind of jobs that will provide the quality of life that most Americans hope for without a college education.